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Final 8 looking a bit light?

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itsddp (5 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 11:00
Looking a bit light this year without Bonjasky or Hari?
What do you all think?
Melali (332 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 11:24
@itsddp You re right, a bit borring this year !
Mitko J. (1136 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 12:13
@itsddp Lighter than ever, the only outcome I cant predict is the one of the Overoid-Schilt final, with 60-40 chance in favor of Schilt.
2wayfreak (121 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 12:35
Don´t forget Ghita, he is heavy and tall, has good technices and knocked out zimmerman...
mehdiman (613 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 12:41
Yes. 60-40, but for Overrem, and perhaps little more.
A MMA fighter is going to succeed the other one as K1champion.
SAD for K1.
Simoyin (344 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 01:55
Yeah don´t forget about Ghita, I think he could give Overeem a hard time.
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 03:03
Yes, the first round will be rather predictable, IMO.

Two fights ending in someone getting KTFOed. One fight ends with a one-sided UD. And one war, with someone walking home on crutches.
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 04:20
i think mainly it s Badr who is missing. Last years final 8 was not harder really, with Zimmerman, Teixteira, Karaev,Bonjansly and Schilt with Overeem and of course Badr and JLB. Well JLB got tired, now we have Aerts, only slightly in better condition. Zimmerman.He is out but Ghita is harder , better fighter. Teixteira hmm well.. there is Spong from whom we will see better or more exciting fight i think.We have now Kyotaro in the place of Karaev who is completely different but we cant say he is worse than Ruslan, although i prefer him, i m not sure he would have made JLB this tired :). So we have less stars, but the fighters average quality is not worse IMO. Of course i miss Badr, I wish he would participate in superfight as reserve but i think for him would be shameful to fight like this, so i dont think he would ever do it.Yes Overeem -Schilt might be the final.Right now only Overeem might be able to KO Schilt, so i cant wait to see that fight.
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 05:21
sorry, also forgot to mention Gokhan Saki so i think this final doesnt look so bad. But of course I miss Badr, and also Remy...
Rob, Holland reporter (1964 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 05:44
IMO K-1 is not build around Bonjasky and Hari.
There are a lot of fighters that make this sport interesting and this years Final8 is gonna be awesome once more. If people think it`s BORING (?!?!) maybe they should follow another sport. It`s the Finals and it will be freakin` sweet once more...as ALWAYS :D
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 07:21
Indeed Rob!!!
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 07:53
I dont think the Final8 will be boring, just predictable.
In fact, if people want to see highlight-reels KOs, they should definitely watch this years Final8.
Cdn Mongoose (1327 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 07:54
Big names do not make great events. Great fights do.

Have seen many events where big name final were boring. I have also seen events where to new or unknown fights were outstanding. Really how many fans had heard of Souwer before the max.

D-rop, Video editor (2350 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-07 at: 08:27
cool
@Rob and @Cnd Mongoose ..... I agree with you.

And we will see if it is all so very predictable, in the competition :D
Sure, Schilt is gonna win this year. But I knew that last year as well ... I dont care. I am just hoping for one or two big surprises and a lot of KDs and KOs.
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 03:55
@D-rop You knew that Schilt was going to win last year? Your crystal ball must be really good. After what Badr did to Schilt in their first meeting, I would have thought that the outcome of the second meeting would not be so easy to predict.

As for this year, Im not so sure he will win again. If Overeem is not too damaged by the time they meet, I would say the fight is a toss-up.
torazulu (579 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 05:28
This years Final 8 looks a bit to obvious and logical, so some huge upset is going to happen for sure.I remember that almost all of us somehow overlooked Bonjasky in 2008 yet he won.What if Kyotaro outruns Schilt?
stark (1057 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 08:54
@jdl. I too knew schilt was going to win it last year. I have a t shirt to prove it :) . Im excited about this years final. Lots of new names so its hard to predict what exactly is going to happen. Its going to be great. Trust me
Simoyin (344 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 09:15
Yes the final looks great. I hope there will be some INTERESTING super or reserve fights though. Kharitonov, Karaev, Gerges, Ignashov etc.
itsddp (5 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 09:20
@Mitko J. Yeah, both look a cut above the rest. With Ghita probably a distant third.
I think Overeem has improved, think he could give Schilt a challenge.
itsddp (5 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 09:24
@Rob Yeah, but they make up half of last years final 4, definately a big loss.
itsddp (5 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 09:25
@szanpan No comment on Mighty Mo?
Mitko J. (1136 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 09:55
@Rob Absolutely, K-1 should never bring it self to a position where they would depend on some fighter(s), but wouldnt it be super exciting if it was Aerts-Remy and Sem-Hari? Other than that, those two seem to have the greatest following among fans ATM, and of course they are missed and surely there will be wishful thinking, it just doesnt mean that this WGP is total waste because of it. Its more because of the unfortunate draw than anything else. Much better combo would be Saki-Spong/Reem-Ghita///Aerts-Schilt/Mo-Kyotaro. We all know what hell can a fresh Peter bring upon Schilt, and we get plus three super exciting matches. This way, if not boring, it will not be as exciting as it could have been.
Rob, Holland reporter (1964 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 11:17
@Mitko J. I agree. Some matchups are more interesting then others...but I`ll be caught dead before I state that the Finals are boring haha
I wonder if Aerts still has what it takes to outpoint Schilt...physically that is, we know he`s got the brains to do so.
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 11:24
Rob i m sorry i dont think so he can be VERY lucky to be in Final 8, if he faces any other fighter of this Final 8 except Mo, then he wouldnt have been able to make it. and itsddp hell yeah i forgot Mo, so he is the extra hehe

Rob you seem to put things a bit further sometimes. Yes we do miss Badr and Remy, but we wont cry , i love this Final 8 too and i cant wait to watch it. But dont diss Badr and Remy as it would be all the same if they were there, because for sure not. IMO :)
Rob, Holland reporter (1964 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 11:57
saywhat
@szanpan ...am I dissing Remy and Badr??
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 12:22
Rob, perhaps i expressed myself not well as it happens sometimes :) As your said k-1 not built up around them as of course it s not, and yes we gonna have a nice and non boring finals which i cant wait. Only tried to put the emphasis on the tone of your writing :) my English is getting worse :( as it seems by your writing you dont like the mentioning of these two fighters as they wont fight this finals, by putting it such way as to that they wont fight so why crying after them. Of course who say boring, they wont mean it BORING only missing these fighters slighly so why not really? :)
Rob, Holland reporter (1964 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 12:40
@szanpan Haha dear Szanpan...the tone of my writing is directly linked to the "tone" of reading it ;-) It`s how many misenterpretations start online.
I don`t mind anyone mentioning anyone. My points was just to say that IMO the Finals will never be boring. Not even with the lack of Badr or Remy.
In fact, calling the Finals boring would mean "dissing" the other fighters involved who come to show a great tournament.
I would have liked to see Hari and Bonjasky there as well, because of their skills. But Bonjasky is unable to fight due to an injury and Hari decided not to participate this year, so I will be cheering for the ones who did decided to come and fight a great tournament :D Man I can`t wait for that evening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D-rop, Video editor (2350 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 12:49
wink
@szanpan, you were the one always saying that there must be new blood in K-1, and that we need other fighters, instead of the same fighters for 5 years ....
This year at least Hari and Bonjasky are out .... and now you are complaining that you will miss them so much. Whats up???
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 01:26
Yes D - rop indeed and if you read what i commented as one of the first you would see that i really meant it :) i do not wish to cry over and over on Badrs missing out this year as i guess noone else would or does :) i wanted to say that im happy for this Final 8 there are nice matchups and i m the last one who would think that it would be boring anyhow :) no no i would be the last one complaining :)
Mitko J. (1136 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 03:22
@szanpan Dont feel guilty szanpan, there is nothing wrong at all with missing them, Tanikawa misses them even more than we do.
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 03:54
@Mitko :D lol you ve got the point here Mitko i m so much sure he does :)
burim (401 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 03:57
fights in the bracket 1 are predictable, but i wouldn`t say boring. For someone who doesn`t like Schilt its not that fun, cuz Kyotaro and Aerts have a very small chance against him.
but the real Final are the 2 quarterfinals and the semi-final in the 2nd bracket. Ghita vs Saki and Overeem vs Spong with the winners facing each other is going to be awesome, believe me :D
mehdiman (613 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 04:54
Spong has no chance in front of a fighter like Overeem. for Overeem it will be like takin his fourth or fifth meal of the day. Or rather as have his apéritif (perhaps he drinks tea since he is fighting in Japan).
it will be little more serious in the semi-f; but cos he ll be still hungry, he will take more time to savor his following dish in three minutes. And after it will be time to attack his favourite dessert ; a big and strong cake. And then question is this ; stomach is it able
of digesting a so big piece of cake. Yes!
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 05:20
@burim Saki-Ghita is going to be one heck of a war, but Im not sure about Overeem-Spong. I think that Overeem will be just too much for Spong in terms of size and power, and the fight may not be as competitive as a Saki-Spong fight would have been.

Anyway, I agree that this side of the bracket holds the most interesting fights. Saki-Ghita is great, and the semi-final will be fun as well.
xyz (306 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 05:43
Have a nice meal,
Alistair :-)
I´m still hoping for Kyotara and Aerts that they´ll have a piece of the cake too - there should be enough food for everyone ;-)
xyz (306 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 05:49
this/ his name is gettin me mad - i mean of course Kyotaro...
xyz (306 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 05:56
The pairing of Saki with Alistair in the first round would have cost the Reem much more...Spong otherwise could be a little bit too comfortable for him...
swaggsantana (9 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-08 at: 06:20
wow i cant believe all you non believers who say-oh this or that fight is predictable-man utter bullshit! this years GP is rather very interesting! yes minus badr but he lost in the finals last yr. so now we got this whole thing wide open...watch shilt be beaten!
Mitko J. (1136 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-09 at: 07:54
@mehdiman Dont worry, Overeem said it will be just like when they trained together, remember the press? He wont go too hard on him, they are ex sparring buddies.
mehdiman (613 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-09 at: 10:03
cool
In overeem s mouth, that means " on the ring no friend nô sparring, war, only war and nothing but war"... And we ll see if he can use clinching against the Tower
xyz (306 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-09 at: 10:04
With this friendly circumstances maybe Spong could take it home by home by points ;-)
FightPhilosoph
er101
(29 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-09 at: 08:21
@Hosinsul i dont think there will be any punches pulled....
Rishi (1007 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 01:57
No Disrespect to all The other fighters... but its gonna be either Overeem or Shilt again this year ..Allistair overeem versus Tyrone Spong yeah they are old training buddies
so what ,i dont think that would mather they might treat each other with respect but they Both wanna win the final 8 ,its a tournemant and in a fight you never know what happends you can geus or predict a outcome based on earlier fights based on skils
ectra ectra ,fasct of the mather is Spong is a Good Muay thai fighter A lott of technical skillz and great power ,but sorry i can not even think for one second that overeem is gonna have a hard time ,if spong moves a lott he can make sum point with his lowkicks and fast combinations ,but if he comes to close, overeem will smash him like a little insect ,so im almost 100 procent sure overeem wil win this fight ,

a other fucked up thing is that allistair semmy and saki are all Golden Glory fighters
the only difference is that semmy has his own people ,and dus not train with allistair and saki ,but chances are big that the final fight would be 2 golden glory fighters
that seems kinda boring to me since saki and allistair know each others weak points and strong points i,m scared its gonna look like a exibithion fight ..
saki is fighting against Githa Wel githa Suprised the shit out of me with his Big ko on zimmerman ...so im scared to make a prediction about this match ,but lets say saki wins the fight ,his next match than wil be allistair ...besides the fact that saki is real fast in his punches and kicks ,look what he did to kameyo ,i dont think he can pull that off against overeem ,you never know maybe he gets 1 or 2 on overeems face and overeem goes down ..end of fight ,but what looks more realistic to me is allistair winnin with ko in the second round ,so allistair kinda only needs to beat Spong and saki i dont think that should be a problem for allistair in the shape he is now ..i rather see a (saki vs spong re-match ),that would be more exiting ,so be honest who is gonna stop allistair Peter if he wins from mighty mo ? sorry i dont see peter winning from allistair
Maybe kyataro no i dont thinks so i dont see might mo Winning from allistair i dont see ghita winning from allistair The only one who might goth a chance is Semmy because of his Lenght reach and because of his name ..if allistair dus not win on ko semmy could win on points ..or maybe even land his long freaking leg to allistairs face, thats the thing with semmy he only needs to lift up his leg in his knee is in your face
but like i saind befor you never know for sure ,its a fight so you can win and you can lose ,but no man this is gonna be Overeems first k1 beld or semmy,s 5th k1 belt
xyz (306 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 02:46
Sounds realistic to me, but what about the X-Factor - if some lucky punches hittin the big 2 frakishly. Which of the other six competitors do see soonest in owning the Ko Power for this big challenge?
I´m still hopin for Aerts but rudimentarily this one goes for me to Saki and Ghita...
Simoyin (344 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 02:51
@Rishi I don´t see Alistair beating Schilt easily. First of all he has a bad chin and does not have the reach and work-rate of Badr Hari, and neither the low-kicks of Gerges. Although he does have an advantage in his power and good height he usually does not employ the kind of frenzy in his fighting that Hari does, not even when he KO´s people. He likes to use his physique, agility and timing to win in a comfortable way, and usually he is so powerful that a single good knee or right hand will down his opponent. This wont work against Schilt, you have to fight with a high work rate and be continuously aggressive, taking big risks and suck up punishment, and i´m not sure Overeem can do this enough over 3 rounds. He wont KO Schilt in the first 30 seconds either, no way.

It will be a good fight though and i think he might do better than Zimmerman.
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 05:41
@Simoyin I agree that Overeem will have to increase his work rate against Semmy if he wants to be successful. If he goes into pure counter-punching mode, Semmy may just take this fight on points by constantly jabbing and front-kicking.

However, I think Overeems chin is not as bad as people may think. Remember that he took an unblocked head kick from Badr without getting knocked out (sure, he was staggered, but he wasnt out, like most other fighters would be after taking a head kick from Hari). Also, his defense at the moment is better than Haris. Therefore, he has a good chance of surviving Schilts attacks long enough to land his own powerful knees and punches and maybe KOing Semmy.
Simoyin (344 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 06:26
@jdl Hmm, i am not sure if you can tell that Overeems chin is good from the fight with Hari last year. He is a strong fighter but seems to me to have a "drop-button" if you catch him on the chin, much like Hari. His defense is maybe better than Hari´s (though i don´t know exactly why you think so) but it wont improve his odds against Schilt much if he does not have the proper offensive capabilities like high work-rate, risk-taking, exceptional chin, good reach and power with punches. Alistair does seem to have the power and reach to be a promising opponent against Schilt but i am not sure if it will be enough. Even LeBanner (who admittedly hasn´t the physique equal to Overeem, but on the other hand has a lot better chin) could not accomplish much against Schilt and he tried 4 times.

Schilt is also very hard to KO (Aerts never even came close, and the Ignashov one wasn´t against the same Schilt that fights right now), and almost equally hard to out-point. But Alistair does have a good game and i think it will be a good fight.
Melali (332 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 06:36
I think, and this is the opinion of all k-1 fans, that the WGP of the last year can never happen again, never, never, never, you have just to watch the event again and you ll notice the difference, tension, skills, knock outs, and the WAR, this will never happen again. You dont believe me ? dont be hypocrit.
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-11 at: 07:02
yes, with the missing of Badr the chill, the tension the adrenaline will be maybe lighter, or, to say different. Things dont stay the same.. now we will have a Final much more different from the one of 2009. and it s nice, as last years finals intensity cant be replayed, that one will be a final always to be remembered. But maybe we will remember this final for different reasons. I hope :)
Polakian (252 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-12 at: 04:08
I tend to agree with Simoyin..it will be difficult for Overeem to defeat Sem.. just to add to work rate etc. as Simoyin was saying i also think Overeem doesent have the variety necessary either..for one, one of his best assets are knees and they will be neutralized versus Sem as he is just to tall for them and there is barely any clinching allowed now so he cant knee from there either. Second Overeem doesnt appear to have the abiliity to utilize a middle or high kick, which is good to use to mix things up when facing Sem. Feitosa hurt and used this versus Sem effectively..also Ghita landed it in there fight,( just the foot and not the shin however), Peter threw a variety of attacks. Generally Overeem is not much of a kicker so whats left..just his hands and that wont be enough to defeat Sem in the style that he fights. As Simoyin stated he likes to take his time and pick his shots and that will be death versus Sem unless your his size. As he starts to get hurt he will get more aggressive and then things will open up for Sem and then it will be over. One thing I am interested in and maybe agree with jdl about is Overeems chin. The past has shown that this is an area of weakness but it seems lately with his increase in size it has helped him take more punishment(not that he is R. Sefo or M. Hunt). If and when they fight that would be the main area of interest for me - just how long he can take the pain? Does he have a chance- Yes..but the odds say differently.
mehdiman (613 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-12 at: 08:59
Overeem is the most complete in this F8. I know everything can hapend in a tournament. But he can take Schilt more easily than we all think here
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 03:50
@Polakian I think that the first Hari-Schilt fight showed that one can be quite successful against Semmy by using mainly punches. Therefore, Alistairs lack of mid- or high-kicks in his arsenal is not going to be such a big factor, IMO.

Also, the Gerges fight showed that having strong punches and lowkicks are enough to give Semmy big problems (the problem with Gerges was that he didnt throw enough of them in the first 2 rounds). Overeem can do both (although his lowkicks may not pack as much power as Gerges kicks, but then his punches are much, much more powerful).

If Overeem can increase his work rate a bit more than what he showed in the Edwards fight, while not taking crazy chances, and give Semmy some angles instead of always coming straight at him like Gerges did, I believe he will take this fight.
Polakian (252 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 06:27
@ jdl i dont think it will be a big factor either jdl, regarding kicks, mostly because he doesent have the ability, but it would certainly help Alistair, if he had more weapons..more variety to keep Sem guessing
this is what i said : "Generally Overeem is not much of a kicker so whats left..just his hands and that wont be enough to defeat Sem in the style that he fights "
In the style that Overeem fights is key. I agree with you, he has to increase the tempo of the fight, like Badr did in Amsterdam. But then that didnt work out so well in Japan after Hari ate a siff left jab and never recovered. I digress, will Overeem increase the tempo, is he comfortable doing that? His past fights dont lend credence to that fact. If he does that and thats a big if, I belive your right he has a chance, if he connects with a solid punch. I just dont think he will. He certainly will be out of his comfort zone. Will see, it will be interesting. I actually dont see Overeem getting by Ghita and I think Ghita has the better game to defeat Schilt, not withstanding there last encounter. Provided Ghita doesent take too much damage against Saki, as he has the toughest 1st opponent of the favorites.
jdl (220 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 04:53
@Polakian I agree that Ghita is a beast, and a very tough test for Overeem. However, I see Alistair (barely) getting by him. My concern is whether Overeem will take too much damage in the Ghita fight, in which case he will be easy pickings for Semmy.

I guess Overeem still has a lot to prove to many K1 fans. This is the year for him to do it. With Badr and Remy out, his chances of becoming K1 champ have never been better, and they may never be so good again. I am sure that Alistair realized that, and he will be extra motivated to capture the title in December.
Simoyin (344 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 05:32
I also think Ghita has better chances against Schilt, he is better suited, if perhaps not physically, at least stylistically and otherwise. But somehow Ghita vs. Schilt 2 doesn´t excite me as much as Overeem vs. Schilt. I guess i am still hoping Overeem could do something like Badr Hari, or at least be a real obstacle to him, more than merely not looking puny. And yes i also see it as a problem that he isn´t so good in the kicking department etc. and he is facing a true karateka.

But maybe he will just figure out his own way against Schilt, if they should meet. We saw that when he faced Bonjasky and Hari for the first time he had a very cunning gameplan in both fights (also his background gives him that unorthodox flavor which can be a problem for fighters - not that he will likely be throwing Schilt around though). But it wont be easy. Even Ghita could be a difficult test for him like you say.
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 06:14
well Simoyin, the fact that last year Schilt KOed Ghita totally and ultimately doesnt help in imagining him to win this time :) Well it will be either a big fight when Overeem and Schilt meet or it will be very very quick KO of Overeem. I would like to see the first of course, and i m excited on it but somehow i wouldnt be happier to see Overeem win. What would happen if he won? Well then Schilt would bust his ass next year, and he would be so angry even angrier than the last time, when he faced Badr after he got KOed by him.I dont think Overeem would win this time... but after K-1 he will have a brilliant future in MMA:
mehdiman (613 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 06:50
happy
@szanpan I am afraid for you that it is necessary to be made in the idea which this year Overeem will not let the title spin him between gloves
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 07:13
well Mehdi to tell you the truth for me it s ok if he wins the title this year only i dont think he will but you know what ? Lets see !! :)
burim (401 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 07:25
@Melali 2008 final tournament was WAY better than 2009 final tornament.
Is 1st round KO`s all you want ?
samout (261 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-13 at: 10:40
ovreem vs spong no chance for spong but the must joke is kytaro vs shillt hhh any body hase saw the reaction of kytaro when he still alone with semmy. open mouth he dont believe him selfe to fight semmy i swear i cry with laughing its very hard for him
mission impossible for spong and kytaro
Polakian (252 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-14 at: 06:14
@ Szanpan Sem did not KO Ghita at the final 16 last year. There were 2 knockdowns in the last minute or so of the 3rd round but the fight did go to decision in favour of Schilt.

@ jdl if Overeem and Ghita meet in the semis and the fight goes the distance, more then likely Alistair will take alot of low kicks as that is one of Ghitas best weapons.

I think your right about the notion that Overeem has to prove himself to certain fans like myself. Even though he already has. His Ko over Badr, then very close decision loss to Remy, then defeating Aerts. I didnt see him accomplishing that, however he keeps suprising me. He has proven himself and not to mention he is a good sportsmen, which is soemthing I value. He would make a good champion, so I am not rooting against him. However, my one concern is at any moment he could turn his back on K1 and go to MMA and thats what I am skeptical about. Could you imagine if he takes the title, somehow gets a monster offer from the UFC and jumps ship. Where does that leave K1. I know that scenario its unlikely but stranger things have happened. So, I have concerns about him and his future plans. Hopefully those plans will be with K1.
Bård
Rasmussen
(514 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-14 at: 07:35
@Polakian Alistair has always been pretty clear about it that he wants to do both, and keep on doing both. He has stated several times that he thinks it is possible to hold a major title in both MMA (his strikeforce belt) and K-1 (he wants one). I believe that as long he has a ticket to the final 16 (by being in the final 8) he will continue to fight at least in the K-1 tournaments. So he will probably divide the year between MMA responsibilities and K-1.
K-1 in the late summer and autumn, and then MMA the rest of the year.
Rishi (1007 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-14 at: 01:06
@Simoyin im not saying allistair is gonna have it easy its probaly gonna be a Tuff fight...
but every fighter fighting against semmy can have a tuff match ,
because of the simple reason thats semmy,s lenght and .reach of course thats not all
semmy dus have a lott of technical skillz and uses that good with his lengt advantge
but dont forget one thing like u said A agresive type fighter makes it dificult for semmy
wel i,m not just lookin at overeems k1 matches but all of his matches i saw the ones where he was much younger and smaller the ones in holland form to hot to handle his pride matches ,and one thing that makes allistair a seriuos contender for the k1 beld is
the fact that he adepts his fighting style real good to his openent ,and yeah maybe his chin aint the strongest but shilts chin aint made from metal ,i dont no if you guys saw shilt in his to hot to handle period where goth his ass kicked almost every match
,but to make a long story short ,i think Allistair Overeem And Semmy shilt are the
most likley to win the beld this year ....and yes i know overeem is not realy a energetic fighter But i know for sure that he is able to boost his speed up ..and imagine a beast like overeem having a moment like badr hari ..whit allistairs punchin im sorry i dont see many people beatin him this year
szanpan (2085 posts)
Posted: 2010-10-14 at: 01:17
well, i think all is up to his head, i think he will get most of the kicks on his head from Semmy. We were always optimistic every year that Semmy will be won over, yet it didnt happen so thats why I m careful this time by saying that, instead I say that it will be a great fight to watch, and yes, IMO Semmy will win this one too, but maybe next year he will be won over.. maybe.. :)
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