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Buakaw vs Sato

K-1 World MAX Final 8  July7, 2008  Tokyo Japan


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Kim, Editor (1548 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-07 at: 06:35
WoW! Really enjoyed this. Thanks a bunch D-rop! =D
D-rop, Video editor (2420 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-07 at: 06:54
You´re welcome Kim.

That was a great fight!! I think the knee in the stomach did the damage, and then the right hook finished the job.
Frank (13 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-07 at: 07:11
Sato fought well!! i agree that the knee did the damge and the right finished the job. thanks for posting this video, great fight!!!
Daniel, Sweden reporter (2501 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-07 at: 07:47
I feel werry diveded,Sato did a good fight and shoved some good boxing, but i have never seen Buakaw fight like this? totaly open guard, almost only boxing, was his mind already past this fight or was something else wrong? If this fight was two years ago BPP would have slaughterd Sato in the first round.

Anyway like you all say i also agree that the knee and the following hook was the factor for the KO.
D-rop, Video editor (2420 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-07 at: 09:52
I agree, Daniel, Buakaw is not the same as 2 years ago. In his last fights, he can´t fight in the same impressive, powerful and attacking way like he did before.

Although I think he was ahead on points in this fight .... before the KO
joel (6 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-08 at: 09:07
doesn't anyone find the fight suspect? watch the end of the fight over and over in slow and youll be convinced buakaw took a fall. im goin a bit nuts over it
Ronnie (101 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-08 at: 09:12
I have heard that BPP have at least one knee injury, And if that is thuth, That will make handikap to Sato, But i like the 2 of them the same as spectaculare fighters. It did enjoy the fight.
Pablo (795 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-08 at: 10:05
that stuff about the injury would explain a lot of things, maybe we'll get some light about it
waldo (68 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-08 at: 10:40
cheeers for posting!
Frank (13 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-08 at: 06:10
The way BPP let his guard down for that long does seem a little out of the ordinary…it almost looks as if he knows the punch is coming – that or he was badly injured from the knee strike. Also, when he hit the ground he puts down his right hand to break his fall but then lies there as if he doesn’t know where he is, which makes no sense to me. If you get knocked out that bad you’re going to land on your face…
Sidekick (492 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-09 at: 06:54
The damage must have been done by the knee strike...earlier, because you can see clearly that from that moment on, Buakaw doesn't have no power anymore, no precision or fighting spirit. I don't know, maybe Sato broke him some ribs, or he tore his liver....However, I don't think Sato would have dared to dream about this.....knocking out Buakaw!
Nicely done, Sato!
joel (6 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-09 at: 12:13
its very unlikely that knee strike did anywhere near enough damage to buakaw to stop him, imagine how many knees he has taken over his 200 fights. besides he was fighting sloppy and out of the ordinary from the first bell. a fix is the only reasonab;e explanation i can find
galeos (17 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-09 at: 05:55
so it's gonna be souwer vs masato in the final??? :DD
it is a pity that buakaw lost. it would be much more interesting...
Sidekick (492 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-10 at: 06:22
@joel: I don't think that this fight was fixed....at least I don't hope so! Maybe Buakaw really was ill or maybe he really did have some hidden injury. I just do not hope that Buakaw participates in fixing fights, because then he would lose ALL my respect, since I always thought of Buakaw to be a real fighter.
Pablo (795 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-10 at: 02:25
in my opinion, if it was all due to a fix, they would have made it look more natural, they would have fixed it better, don't you think so? maybe in the next days we'll know something about Buakaw's condition prior to the fight. I think he wasn't his usual self. Two explanations ensue: a) he lost his touch, he's down the slope already (I don't hope) b) he had some hidden injury (as some of you hint). Really I keep watching that last minute of the fight and honestly don't see any devastation risks around the liver or ribs
Frank (13 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-10 at: 03:05
I agree with you 100% Pablo, it sure does look that way to me as well.
Frank (13 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-10 at: 03:16
I think its K1’s attempt to mix up the tournament a little bit. Every year we see the same few fighters make it to the final 8 or 4 which is making the tournament way too predictable!! Case in point--take look at our reaction to BPP losing this fight – we expected him to win… which in my eyes he should have anyway. If this was K1s tactic then I think they chose the wrong fight to fix. I would have believed it more if Souwer lost to Stevelmans… that guy is a little beast.
joel (6 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-11 at: 12:04
jeroen i hope ur right, ive just been weighing up al the reasons, and keep coming to the same conclusion. the only thing that tels me it wasnt fixed is the reasons u mentioned. i hope something comes up about his condition soon
Sidekick (492 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-11 at: 06:39
Well Joel....Maybe the others are right and the fight was fight by the organization in a (really bad) attempt to make the outcome of the K-1Max interesting again....although in my opinion the K1max is always interesting...
Buakaw would just really lose a lot of credit if he really took money to lose, but probably this is how the world turns,so....
joninberlin (4 posts)
Posted: 2008-07-13 at: 03:11
I posted this in another Buakaw loss forum on this site:

I believe Buakaw's loss and manner of losing was a combination of several factors - I have tried to organize my analysis in the following 6 points:

1) Changed rules neutralized Buakaw's supreme clinching, clinch-knee and throwing abilities.
2) The Japanese have studied him and his weapons and after four years of Buakaw domination, they have finally been able to adapt to his style.
3) The new format (1 fight per event instead of 3 fights) has allowed the fighters to fight "balls out" from beginning to end - Buakaw, having fought his first 300 fights with 5 rounds full muay thai rules has a different fight pace ingrained in him - slow starts, energy conserving and more precision. The new format doesn't suit this pace. Sato was smart (and fit) enough to maintain an intense pace right from beginning to the very end. Buakaw did not dictate the pace this time which is probably one of the biggest factors.
4) Sato is substantially taller than Buakaw and was smart to start using knees - until now it seems no one has actually tried using knee strikes against Buakaw. Sato timed his knee attacks very well, directly after punch attacks. Many of the knee strikes thrown during these situations scored.
5) As mentioned in point 3, The intense pace of the fight was not Buakaw's accustomed pace - Buakaw was forced to match Sato's pace and gave his all in round 1,2 as well as the beginning of the third. Surprisingly Sato endured Buakaw's unrelenting attacks. With exaclty 2:14 left in the 3rd round (7:58 in the attached video link) Buakaw showed his first sign of fatigue (hugging Sato) The barrage from Sato at exaclty 1:24 left in the round (8:48 in the attached video link) - a jab cross left knee to the body, was what really damaged Buakaw, the following barrage against the ropes (left low kick punch, punch punch, and another left low kick as he was going down) simply finished him.
6)Thai fighters usually don't like to try standing after a hard knock down. Buakaw could've easily gotten up and tried clinching and hugging until the end of the round, but out of self-respect and self preservation, he would rather be counted out.

I love Muay Thai, and respect Buakaw more than any fighter (aside from JWP). I myself also question and dislike K1's constant change of rules in order to better suit some fighters and disadvantage other fighters, but I would really like to believe that this fight was not fixed. Furthermore, this shows that Buakaw is only human, perhaps even boosting his attraction as it was getting boring watching him beat everyone with ease. Sato fought smart and with an intense pace and great heart - Buakaw was clearly winning and throwing damaging blows until 30 seconds before getting stopped.

I also couldn't believe what I saw when i first watched the fight, but after watching it several times, I am convinced the fight was not fixed and give both fighters great respect for their performances.

http: //youtube.com/watch?v=BWG9CnqIA5I
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